# Community pool spend prop: Transparency & OCA tools

**URL:** <https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444>\
**Category:** Proposal Ideas\
**Created:** [May 2, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444 "2022-05-02T16:59:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Yaro-the-Cosmodiver](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/yaro-the-cosmodiver/32/3037_2.png) [@Yaro-the-Cosmodiver](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/Yaro-the-Cosmodiver)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/1 "2022-05-02T16:59:30Z")

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Hi all,

The purpose of this post is to gauge interest in using the community pool to fund the development of On-Chain-Analysis (OCA) tools for IBC chains.

Rationale:  
-There have been multiple instances recently where the people involved in IBC chains have wanted to track the flow of transactions, whether it be rug-pull NFTs, malicious contracts or other unusual transactions.  
-On Bitcoin and Eth there are many OCA tools that can be used to investigate transaction chains, connected wallets etc.  
-The only app I could find which provides good functionality, as well as providing a free service, is Breadcrumbs ([https://www.breadcrumbs.app/](https://www.breadcrumbs.app/) , [Breadcrumbs App – Medium](https://medium.com/@breadcrumbs.app))  
-Governments, some developers, and anyone with a lot of money already have this capability  
-In effect, having an investigative tooling available cross-IBC and free to use would level the playing field.

What’s been done so far:  
-The idea has been paneled with a few validators to gauge interest. The response has been overwhelmingly positive.  
-I’ve engaged with breadcrumbs.app dev team, and have been given the following rough guidance:

1. Cost for Ronin integration is [XXX] a month incl hosting (ie dedicated servers for storing chain data and doing the processing)
2. Dev time is 2 months

My thoughts:  
-The community spend would be for 1 year’s service ([XXX] max)  
-The possibility of saving money, or developing a symbiotic relationship exists through using Akash for hosting  
-Other IBC chains may want to chip in as it’s effects would be for all of IBC

Way forward:

1. If the community here is in favour, I will continue to engage with the Breadcrumb Dev Team and put them in touch with any Devs who want to help (There will be lots of questions I can’t answer).
2. If the community here disagrees, I will discontinue this idea.

In summary, I believe paying to make investigative tooling available for all is in line with the Cosmos Hub’s ethos of transparency and security.

_I am in no way affiliated with Breadcrumb and have no financial gain from this proposal_

\*Prices censored at request of breadcrumbs

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**Author:** ![lexa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/lexa/32/7415_2.png) [@lexa](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/lexa)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/2 "2022-05-02T18:28:17Z")

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Hey Yaro! Just want to clarify what kind of post this is - I see you’ve titled it ‘Signalling’ but also described it as a Community Pool Spend proposal.

I think what you’re doing here is gathering feedback on a community spend proposal you’d like to make, correct?

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**Author:** ![Yaro-the-Cosmodiver](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/yaro-the-cosmodiver/32/3037_2.png) [@Yaro-the-Cosmodiver](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/Yaro-the-Cosmodiver)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/3 "2022-05-02T18:58:53Z")

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Hi Lexa,

That’s exactly what I’m doing - gathering feedback to see if the community here thinks this would be a good proposal to continue work on. My apologies for titling it signalling, I thought it was the most accurate description at the time, but I’ll edit it now to remove the ambiguity.

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**Author:** ![Syed](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/syed/32/6968_2.png) [@Syed](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/Syed)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/4 "2022-06-28T13:21:51Z")

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IMO this is a good idea, and possibly even a candidate for funding from the ICF? Since this is not necessarily a project for the “good of atom”, but is kinda critical for the ecosystem to have. Right?

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**Author:** ![pinkriverbird](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/pinkriverbird/32/5422_2.png) [@pinkriverbird](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/pinkriverbird)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 9:49am UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/5 "2023-07-28T09:49:07Z")

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Hello! I work for breadcrumbs.app and we’re about to send a proposal to support Cosmos. Anyone you know that we can talk to to better understand the node documentation?

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**Author:** ![Flo](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/flo/32/5070_2.png) [@Flo](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/Flo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/6 "2023-08-01T16:52:35Z")

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Hi @pinkriverbird,

will you open a own thread for a proposal idea or are you going for a grant?

If you have questions about the node documentation i would recommend to join the cosmos discord. There is a channel for node operators. You can also shoot me a dm.

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**Author:** ![pinkriverbird](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/pinkriverbird/32/5422_2.png) [@pinkriverbird](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/pinkriverbird)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 9:01am UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/7 "2023-08-08T09:01:36Z")

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> [@Flo](#):
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> ea

Hello @Flo , are there grant options? Can you point me to where I can read docs about it?

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**Author:** ![Flo](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/flo/32/5070_2.png) [@Flo](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/Flo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/8 "2023-08-11T14:49:24Z")

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The grant program was funded by prop 95: “A Grant Program for the Cosmos Hub: Funding the ATOM Accelerator DAO”

Have a look at [https://www.atomaccelerator.com/](https://www.atomaccelerator.com/)

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**Author:** ![pinkriverbird](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.cosmos.network/pinkriverbird/32/5422_2.png) [@pinkriverbird](https://forum.cosmos.network/u/pinkriverbird)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 6:35am UTC](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/community-pool-spend-prop-transparency-oca-tools/6444/9 "2023-08-17T06:35:44Z")

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tysm. i appreciate it!
