[Proposal][#Voting Period] Signaling Proposal - Claw back unvested funds from Proposal 104

[tom]

good decision from Notional today

it’s a bit premature but, what if those funds once returned are dedicated to an IBC security bounty?
:>

[jacobgadikian]

@ctrl-Felix

This requires a software update proposal. Because even if all multisig participant would want they wouldn‘t be able to do.

Because unvested coins are not transferable. I guess we would need some sort of state update. I am not sure how to completely implement it though.

If this goes through, what I think it will given Notional itself recommends to vote yes, I will open a Github issue for this. And then we will see there how this gets executed

Thank you Felix. This is a rapidly moving situation and I’m very limited in what I can say. Please simply know that I FULLY endorse this course of action.

[jacobgadikian]

@tom

it’s a bit premature but, what if those funds once returned are dedicated to an IBC security bounty?

I wouldn’t support bounties administered by Amulet, Informal, or Strangelove.

The funds will be returned to the community pool though, so, the community will get to decide what to do with them, as is right and good.

[jacobgadikian]

Hi Felix, I wish to inform you that the document you linked to contains numerous mischaracterizations and falsehoods.

That being said, thank you for making this proposal and for getting it on chain rapidly.

Sincerely from my heart,

Jacob Gadikian

[jacobgadikian]

@schultzie

We have voted YES on Prop 860 , on the basis that the funds need to go to a new wallet due to 3/5 of the multisig departing Notional. We do NOT see it as Notional or @jacobgadikian being delinquent in duties.

Thank you very much

When we were speaking against this prop we did not fully understand the situation. Getting funds back to the pool is the best course of action. @joe-bowman and I are happy to write the update handler.

Once again, thank you

[jacobgadikian]

@ctrl-Felix

My open questions would be. Who would be able to create such update and coordinate the update?

Myself and Joe, I think. If for some reason I am out of touch, I humbly ask one of the Cosmos’s many highly qualified engineers to handle the task.

We should be able to do the handler, I will be in VN for the next 3 weeks at minimum.

Thank you again.

Leave funds at rest: all participants doxxed

[mgl2150]

Cosmos community members - This is Long (representing the other co-founders / shareholders of Notional). As you may be aware, Jacob and the other co-founders of Notional have been in a dispute regarding the division of assets of Notional. This dispute remains ongoing.

In response to Jacob Gadikian’s latest post to transfer the unlocked tokens into his chosen Cosmos wallet address, we humbly request that this be put on hold until further notice. The shareholders of Notional have not resolved the dispute regarding the division of Notional’s assets. Transferring the unlocked tokens to Jacob’s chosen wallet address would be detrimental to the ongoing settlement discussions. We are happy to answer any questions regarding what happened and Notional / Jacob’s actions to the extent we are asked by anyone in the community but for now we would request that no tokens be transferred to any wallet address and all actions be put on hold except the clawback of the unvested tokens.

[beredis]

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