The Origin of Cosmos Drama

Originally a reply in another thread but worth creating a separate thread for.
This is not merely historical, it is the root of the problem plaguing Cosmos today.
This is not only a political and technical problem, this is a spiritual and moral problem.


2013 I start AIB, initially created FtNox an exchange. I maybe wrote the first exchange that also could prove its reserves. I never launched because just about when I was going to, I discovered the 1988 BFT paper.

2015/2016 there is CryptoEconomicon in the south bay in california. I meet Chris Harborne and Ethan.

2016 I work with Ethan as a loan employee since I wanted to build the EVM on top of Tendermint, and Eris wanted a permissioned EVM. I teach everything I know about Tendermint to Ethan, and he asks his professor if he can write his thesis on it.

Around this time Ethan was still employed with Eris Industries. Eris Industries it was said that there were five cofounders, but the two public facing cofounders are Casey and Preston Byrne.

The LICENSE at this time was not well defined. I said that it will be published “at least as copyleft” but it’s pretty fucking clear that I am also interested in more liberal licenses, since I mentioned that I’m a Kopimist by heart. Look at the repo.

I spend 3 months to no avail to convince Preston and Casey to allow me to publish Tendermint as Apache2. Preston for being a lawyer is a complete clown and keeps pretending that dual licensing isn’t a thing.

I spend time developing ABCI just so that I can give up the EVM and the permissioning that I wrote, just so that I can retain the right to publish Tendermint as Apache2.

During this time I learn that Chris Harborne self admittedly saved George Soros in Thailand during the IMF incident, that he is ex-mi6, laundered money for Obama using jet fuel. I later learn that he is also the lead funder for Brexit. He is also clearly a major funder of Ethereum. He also apparently had a major role in Tether, the project that was founded by the infamous Brock Pierce. I’m not even going to talk about the string of deaths of my friends around that fellow.

Ethan helps out with the testing suite for Tendermint and fixing bugs (he didn’t design Tendermint, but to his credit he did help with the test suite), while I’m working to develop an investment strategy trying to raise from Bitcoin savvy VCs. None of them understand what proof of stake is.

As a last resort I came up with the Cosmos whitepaper based on my own ideas about inserting light client proofs in the blockchain itself. Tendermint was always designed for efficient light client proofs, when most of the blockchain world gave up on it.

2016 I write just about all of the Cosmos whitepaper save for the non-technical and Tendermint related parts of the whitepaper which I delegate to Ethan. I am the only one interfacing with up to five law firms eventually settling on MME to create a foundation, modeling off of Ethereum. I create the PLAN.md, the fundraiser docs, pretty much everything about Cosmos and the ICF and the plan, technical and nontechnical, were my creations.

MME says I need to have at least 3 people in the FC. They say they can provide a third neutral swiss board member. I say fine, I can invite Ethan in as the third. Mind you I was already being super generous with his equity in AIB for being a late cofounder. I started the company years before Ethan joined but I gave him half of what I had.

I travel the world pitching Cosmos, to the point that I vowed not to fly internationally again. Ethan never did.

Late 2017/2018 or so I take a break for a few months, I’ve been at this for four years. By the time I come back to full time I see that Ethan had hired a ton of managers. Ok, I can work with that.

Around 2018 shit gets really weird.

  • Ethan starts harping about me leaving the ICF, ever since I brought it up once. He says I need to leave because of conflict of interest. More on the hypocrisy later.

  • Executive retreat with Ethan, Zaki, and others five of us total. Zaki makes clear he doesn’t care about the mission but cares about making money for himself.

  • At a crypto conference, OpenLibra is proposed by essentially a scammer who puts up my photo and Sunny’s as if we are core members of his project when it’s hardly the case. Ethan and Zaki know this and I warn them not to associate with the scammer but they don’t care.

  • While checking up on OpenLibra I comment about the voting system they are proposing and I point out how it can easily be gamed, and they don’t care.

  • I see Zaki starting to call himself cofounder of Cosmos despite only having joined after much of the genesis software was already complete, and he wasn’t even part of the coding team. I ask him to stop, but it keeps happening. Here were the engineers behind the hub software: Sunny, Dev, Chris Goes, Ethan Frey, Alessio, Rigel, and myself. Neither Ethan nor Zaki were involved.

  • Jessy Irwin comes up to me and brags about how she invited her ex into her apartment on false pretenses to get revenge on him, and how she hacked into his computer and stole his bitcoins, and showed me the purse she bought with those Bitcoins.

  • I tell this to Zaki and he insists that we need Jessy to complete the job. Her job was basically interfacing with HackerOne. I make an exception for Zaki, but refuse to give Jessy full superadmin privileges for Tendermint’s google apps, since with that you can do a lot more than her job entails.

  • Zaki starts spreading FUD that I am imposing a glass ceiling, being sexually discriminatory to the whole company, despite knowing of the above. This is after he told me that his favorite book is the “traitorous eight”, and comments like “I’m like a god”, “that plan isn’t evil enough”. Clearly using dark magic for self gain.

  • I propose the Virgo idea and Zaki approves, likes it so much he wants to present it himself to the company. This was after we agreed on a separation of roles; I will focus on new projects like Virgo, and he will help manage Cosmos. The separation of concerns was super clear.

  • I let Ethan and Zaki take over the routine AIB/ICF negotiations since it’s routine work. By this time the ICF had over $100,000,000 worth of ATOMs and cash and crypto in treasury. AIB is right up there but has less. It should be clear to everyone that there is absolutely no problem. Next thing I hear the engineers lamenting that their job security is at stake. This makes no fucking sense, the ICF should obviously be supporting us and Ethan and Zaki were responsible. This ends up being blamed on me.

  • The engineers of the company leave and the primary claim is lack of certainty of funding, and in an open letter they wrote some other non concrete things. Funny that it happens right after I start demanding that everyone report transparently on their conflicts of interests.

  • I say once in our internal Slack in #general that we should strive to write excellent software that will be deemed worthy in the future, that we are doing the work of God. Once did I mention God there. Later Zaki resigns and claims that I harassed everyone in EVERY slack channel with religious harassment. Lies. Jessy Irwin claims ambiguously that I harassed her, in the height of the #metoo movement. I have zero record of sexual harassment even to this day. ZERO.

  • For the kind of cultural problems, let me tell you of one A in Berlin who got so offended that I suggested in a private call that we need to hire more concurrency experts; he wasn’t an expert in concurrency and he simply could not stand the fact that I was implying that he wasn’t already an expert.

  • Ethan and Jack were involved in a FUCKING SKUNKWORKS PROJECT IN AIB named “DOUBLEDARE” whereby they decided to talk amongst themselves about removing a key component of the entire project, AMINO, INSTEAD OF FUCKING FIXING IT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT TO. This was WHILE I spent months BRAINDAMANGING AMINO to be protobuf complete because they insisted on supporting protobuf. Even after I fixed it up 99% of the way they insisted on removing it. If you want to see what I mean, check out the difference between AMINO then and the new AMINO in gnolang’s TM2 directory. Complete insanity, not to mention deceitful AND ILLEGAL.

  • Later I learn that Zaki is being sued for basically trying the same shit he did to me to someone else. The person suing him I trust, and he says Zaki threatened him saying “Do you see what I did to Jae?”. I’m not even talking about Shaun.

  • Later I find out that Ethan had set up Informal with an outsized financial incentive for himself. This is completely ludicrous and insanely unethical because the entire ICF was founded for the purpose of public funding. Instead of giving 20% of AIB I GAVE HALF FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMMONS FUNDING. This is reflected in the fundraiser plan and docs. It is illegal for FC members to enrich themselves this way but apparently Swiss law is full of holes just like their cheese. I suppose now that either MME is just super corrupt (they are getting sued by other projects) or their raison d’etre is to profit from their supposed neutrality.

  • Later I find out that Jacob introduced Grace to Preston’s law firm. I was told that Preston sold the idea that he would help resolve the lawsuit faster because he knows me. Preston disappears from the picture and meanwhile their lawfirm makes ridiculous assertions such as, they won’t mediate until the lawsuit is dropped. This is ridiculous. Community is outraged.

  • Later I find out that Brian Crain WAS ALSO AN EMPLOYEE OF ERIS INDUSTRIES. Had I known, I would have never accepted his entry into the FC. I would never give up control of the ICF to Eris, they were the ones who tried to fuck me over in 2016. Ludicrous.

  • When I left the FC I said in no uncertain terms, in the strongest terms possible, that the person they wanted to replace me with SHOULD NOT be in the FC because they were an employee of AIB, and I have worked with them, and they DID NOT demonstrate the needed expertise. I suggested Sunny. They all completely dismiss my remarks and decide that it will be this person.

  • This I haven’t verified but I later learn that this person’s father was a close friend a ghostwriter for Bill Fucking Gates.

  • Brian Crain AFAIK is married to the daughter of an ex dictator of Turkey.

  • Ethan Buchman was somehow magically best friends with Vlad Zamfir. He is part of the Creative Destruction Lab in Canada. I could say a lot more along these lines but I’ll stop here.

I haven’t even mentioned the stupidity of prop 69 (vm on hub), 82 (atom2), and now they want to remove the 2/3 bonding target for an IBC hub. These are just a FEW of the points I can recall of the top of my head after getting PTSD from the amount of CHICANERY and DECEIT.

Check Chjango’s recent expose with Jack Zampolin as an example of the culture I am fighting against.

Basically it’s hard not to see from my shoes that the project or at least the ICF was subverted by deep state forces.

  • Why is Preston so often cited on ZeroHedge articles like he’s some paragon of truth?
  • Who were the original “five cofounders” of Eris and what are their backgrounds?
  • Why was their mascot the Marmot? Because they always planned on burrowing? :wink:
  • Why did they rename from Eris to Monax? Maybe the connection to “destruction” is too obvious?
  • Why do I keep seeing a connection to elitist backgrounds in all of this?
  • A man wants to know.

I wouldn’t even care if they were doing their jobs.
It seems that they care more about Ethereum and Urbit.
They should all disclose their entire positions and all of their conflicts of interests.
But really they should just all resign.

The reason the trauma won’t just heal and go away is because it’s wrong to stay silent.
Gore2020 didn’t kill me, ATOM2 with Pepe the frog crucified didn’t do it.
They should take the L and fuck off and admit defeat before it’s too late.

Ultimately this is my mistake.
After George Soros fucked over Asia and even caused my Daewoo to collapse
where my dad held an executive position, I thought listening to Chris Harborne would be a good idea just because he was well connected.
I should have not listened to him.
I should not have created a Swiss foundation, or trust MME, or a “neutral board member”.
I should have fired Jessy on the spot.
I should have fired Zaki.
I should have said goodbye to Ethan.
I should have fired Jack.
I should have should have should have but at every turn there appeared to be reasons why it would be a bad idea… maybe if I give enough feedback or communicate with Ethan enough maybe Ethan would see. WRONG.

There are four types of people in this world.

  1. There are the entitled who grew up with silver spoons in a pot of evil.
  2. There are those who sell themselves to the above for Mammon.
  3. There are those who grew up in poverty but got lucky, or was privileged and had the right upbringing, and feel a responsibility to reduce human suffering.
  4. There is everyone else who never received or never gave themselves the chance.

Pick wisely, because the hour of judgement is upon us.

Do not compromise on your values and do not give people third and fourth chances.
Do not feel intimidated by numbers and gangstalking/social_engineering tactics.
There are some lines (like doubledare or stealing) that are immediate grounds for exile.

To this day I have yet to hear a single apology.
To be fair Zaki once did internally to AIB, but not for what I wrote above.

After I resigned from AIB by popular demand (though nobody sane would have agreed if they were in my shoes), and finally from ICF because it was already clear that the ICF was completely subverted (though I still regret the decision), I have since been working on the best smart contracting system the world has yet even seen.

It’s still crazy to me that after Ethan and I decided that in order for us to make progress we needed to create our own isolated budgets, so I finally agreed on the creation of Informal, while the Virgo budget was equally carved out for my direction; and just because I chose to keep the funds in the ICF (obviously for accountability) since I have resigned from the FC they decided to completely ignore this and pretend like that arrangement never happened. Meanwhile I have learned since that the “coop” Ethan created with Informal is not a coop at all and Ethan has an outsized financial stake in it; so HE is the one who has a conflict of interest, and he created it AFTER he pressured me to leave the ICF on the same grounds, that I have the conflict; after I created all of these things.

The magnitude of the hypocrisy and chicanery and deceit is what turned me Christian. Here is it what did it for me. The first letter in the last book of the bible spoke to me like nobody else could at a time I most needed to hear it.

Message to the Church in Ephesus (Acts 19:8-12)

1Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
2I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: 3And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name’s sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. 4Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. 6But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. 7He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Jesus is King of Kings.

If you all just want to support the status quo despite these revelations,
well fuck me, maybe it is simply too late.
Don’t be surprised if everyone decent starts to exodus to a new hub.
I cannot in good conscience support what has been and now is worse.
The fucking buck stops here.
Trust me, it is better to sell and leave now if you don’t agree with me.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Doing any kind of psychoanalysis of Cosmos without understanding the chicaneers and their works, and what REALLY led to what they called gore2020, is complete folly, and only serves to sustain the status quo.

Admitting the failures of the ICF and failing to act against the ICF, or suggesting that we simply ignore it, when the hub SHOULD be taking action, is again being an apologist to evil.

I have given them AMPLE WARNING. Despite knowing that the above is true they have continued to play their playbook of mass brainwashing Cosmonauts and continuing their attacks against the integrity of the hub, and turning the ICF into their slush fund, and then daring to ask for more with ATOM2.

JUDGEMENT DAY IS HERE.


Here is the plan.

  1. Create an opposition political party that represents the original values of Cosmos.
  2. Make a new blockchain that counters the effects of the ICF/Informal/Stride political party.
  3. Play fire for fire to gather support around this new “liquid staking” hub.
  4. Oppose the status quo until they leave due to the governance stalemate on the main hub.
  5. Failing that, if they do not leave, develop our political party hub as the new Cosmos hub.
  6. Checkmate.
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Also I forgot to mention that Chjango is a cofounder of Cosmos.
She was there since before the launch and knows of the shenanigans.
She now has a hotline for you to report cosmos crypto crime to.

Here’s another article describing how the WEF has been circling Cosmos.

So we have George Soros affiliates subverting Cosmos, even since the early days of Tendermint, again with Antoine Vergne and Rebecca Liao now we have some WEF folks hovering around. Not to mention BlackRock funded Circle working with Noble+Strangelove. Another sleuth discovered likely ties between SBF/FTX and the Luna crash.

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Since I am over my edit limit, here is an update:

RE Jessy Irwin:

  • I tell this to Zaki and he insists that we need Jessy to complete the job. Her job was basically interfacing with HackerOne. I make an exception for Zaki, but refuse to give Jessy full superadmin privileges for Tendermint’s google apps, since with that you can do a lot more than her job entails. She was also responsible for maintaining Google Apps for onboarding and offboarding but I already gave her ALL THE PERMISSIONS save for superadmin (root). I asked her to clarify what else she needs and she doesn’t answer.
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Hello Jae, I appreciate your overview here. A few initial questions on the back of it: 1. Could you expound upon the exact role of Chris Harborne within Cøsmos Network up from its inception? 2. Could you describe your assessment of the actual skillset of persons like Ethan Buchman, Zaki Manian, Jack Zampolin and Jacob Gadikian when it comes to respectively their management and coding qualities? 3. Could you explain why you do say to trust a person like Grace Yu who checks all the boxes regarding being affiliated with ‘a deep state’ ft a Soros fellowship, Maxwell education, Rhodes scholarship, Clinton administration position etc and what lead you to suddenly drop the *court case against her?

  • bonus: you mean the case of Taariq Lewis rep VolumeFi vs Zaki Manian when mentioning Zaki being sued for other nefarious actions?

Soverin, sure.

  1. I can’t say much more, he was sort of a ghost. He was supportive in our development efforts. Rented a flat in San Francisco where Ethan Buchman, Zack Hess was pretty much always there, and often Vlad would come over. Chris Harborne was supportive. I hesitate to share his name because he doesn’t want to be known, but since I have learned more and more about geopolitics and because I can’t even trust our own damn government, I feel like the best I can do is share what might be pertinent to someone else who can later connect the dots. I cannot ascribe any malice to Chris, except the outstanding things that he told me. I would have kept all of these secret if it were not for the fact that his suggestion ultimately seems to have worked toward subverting Cosmos by way of Ethan. If I’m right, then somebody needs to know.

  2. I can only attest to the coding ability of Ethan Buchman. He has natural talent, and he can spit a rhyme. Jack too, we’ve all seen his work making the software easy to use. What kind of management creates a skunkworks project and calls it double dare unless you’re some crook kingpin? Ethan thinks he is a better manager than I because according to him I verbally abuse him by writing things like the above. Jacob as a manager sounds like a blast when you’re drunk.

  3. I don’t trust anyone. She got a scholarship what when she was 18? I don’t know what Maxwell education is. We talked about why we dropped the lawsuit on github/allinbits announcements. From what she was telling us it seemed like she was being manipulated. I doubt we would have gotten anything else out of the lawsuit if we had dragged it out. We aren’t being defamed anymore, seems like everyone got the memo now. Dropping the suit was literally about the jubilee. I thought I’d give it a chance to forgive. I think it’s crazy that Preston Byrne was involved.

  4. yeah it’s also linked to from another article.

Ethan

  1. Zaki

  2. Zaki

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very interesting feedback. Can you expand on this?

Who should be drunk? Please note that I’ve stopped drinking out of concern for health but am open to pursuing Ballmer peak research

Are we talking about ballmer peak level productivity / ability enhancements?

Eg:

  • if jacob ballmer peaks, his managerial skills improve
  • if others ballmer peak, jacobs managerial style will make sense to them, resulting in it being seen asa. blast?

I have always felt, and continue to feel, that the ballmer peak is real and worth researching in healthy ways only.

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@jaekwon there might be some truth in what you’re saying, that’s impossible for the majority of people in the community to verify.

That being said, there are many things that you’re saying that make you sound completely deranged, so you’re unfortunately losing all credibility and no one will take anything that you’re saying seriously.

Try to take the crazy parts of your story (as well as religion) away and people might listen to what you have to say, unless this whole post is to troll us, in which case it’s very effective.

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I should be drunk to be working under you.
I’d do it, we would have a blast of a good time.
And I can’t disagree about that chart, though it is slippery.

When it comes to mission critical prioritization,
well look, I don’t agree with your assessment of a LOT of things.
You know what disagreements we’ve had in the past.
I just don’t understand how such is possible.

Again, you shared images I shared with you for the purpose of discussing
a geopolitical situation that I basically predicted.
I wrote up README/PHILSOPHY files that explained why those images were important,
and you chose to ignore them completely and use half-truths to defame me,
calling me an anti-semite. Eh, maybe I wouldn’t have minded if you called me anti-zionist,
but that’s besides the point. Your goal was to murder my reputation, just like “gore2020”.
That’s just one data-point among a hundred with you.

This isn’t even “bottom tier” behavior.
The only conclusion that I can personally draw is that you were out to get me by any means necessary. And you still haven’t admitted it.

I have forgiven you but again here my mind is a rock though my heart is left open.

I took your calls for over a year during Covid, entertaining your ideas and giving you feedback.
The whole time you were calling me to get some edge over me.
Did you have some deal between you/Notional and Quicksilver?

Just like that Nick/AtomDragon guy who took my donations to him, and used it to create some bullshit rumor in the WEF owned telegram chat channel #CosmosClown*** or whatever it was called (you can see my Twitter history about it), involving some fascist neo-nazi named Dr. Ko and bunch of other actors, seemingly also involving Pupmos and a bunch of pseudonyms. Dr. Ko deleted his twitter pretty fast and ran. I thank him for dropping off, please stay away from me.

Yeah I mean it’s pretty fucking clear that there is a targetting of me, those around me, and my projects and companies from all angles.

You want to talk about the psychology of this situation, and call me confused?

Dear sir you are a comedian. :wink:


On a related note, everyone should watch the TV series by Adam Curtis, starting with the Century of the Self. Adam Curtis is necessary context to understand what I’m talking about. All the way to Hypernormalization.

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I’m not trolling. I was trolling at first a little bit with @jaesustein, but this is all 100% genuine, no troll.

You’re just being religiously intolerant. You’re the bigot by calling me crazy. In fact, the conditioning that you went through to believe that what I am saying is crazy, is what makes YOU the crazy person. But I don’t care to change your mind about it. Feel free to ignore the crazy parts, I don’t care but thanks for your feedback anyways.

Plenty of people take me seriously.

Did you know that the four colors of the horses of the apocalypse are WHITE, RED, BLACK, and GREEN (PALE)? Those are all the flags that are protesting and fighting against a global matrix that is inverting EVERYTHING. The same techniques used for global inversion have been used on me, and I am merely pointing them out.

How lost do you have to be to ignore useful information with biblical prophecy unfolding before your eyes? I dunno, I don’t care, don’t answer that.

I appreciate your reply here but I can’t help notice that you are leaving out some crucial information. Given the fact that Mr Harborne is a military contractor with per your previous statements self-admitted ties to George Soros it indeed stands to reason that he sought to enable a person like Ethan Buchman who is an Israeli military asset to yield a firm control over the ecosystem. Which specific suggestions did he give to you that contributed to the subversion of Cøsmos.

Zaki Manian mentioned somewhere that he introduced Ethan Buchman to you after which he seems to have played quite a role in bringing people into the ecosystem here. His father went to a private Jesuit college in India and is also a military contractor ft Defense Mapping Agency which is part of the Intelligence apparatus, is active in the BioPharma industry and in the 3D immersive environment world.

Jacob Gadikian self-admittedly had a large part of his education paid for by Jesuits. He mentioned Grace Yu to be the only South-Korean he knows to have converted to Judaism. You believing in a person like her who meets regularly with NSA Jake Jeremiah Sullivan finally strikes me as noteworthy.

That’s exactly the point of my previous post. It’s impossible to distinguish the crazy parts from the truth, so your whole story is basically labelled as crazy.

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I appreciate your reply here but I can’t help notice that you are leaving out some crucial information. Given the fact that Mr Harborne is a military contractor with per your previous statements self-admitted ties to George Soros it indeed stands to reason that he sought to enable a person like Ethan Buchman who is an Israeli military asset to yield a firm control over the ecosystem. Which specific suggestions did he give to you that contributed to the subversion of Cøsmos.

Excuse me, did you not read my post? Is it not enough for you that he created a culture of backstabbing with doubledare? how about the fact that I made the ICF yet he pressured me to resign on false pretenses, creating a conflict of interest for himself? What do you want me to do, tell you that I begged him once to swear that he would never join the IDF? Funny enough, I actually did that, and he flat out refused. Yes, I asked him in Toronto once whether he would ever consider joining the IDF and whether he would refuse. He flat out denied. Do I think it matters? Maybe, maybe not. I’m not saying he’s in the IDF. You brought it up.

Zaki Manian mentioned somewhere that he introduced Ethan Buchman to you

That’s just Zaki taking credit for things, and/or scheming with Ethan to change the backstory. Is he saying that Chris Harborne wasn’t a significant factor in how we met? Anyone saying that is outright lying. Before Chris introduced me to Ethan, Ethan once told me that he reached out to me. I’m sure he did, but I didn’t give a fuck until Chris introduced me. Zaki had nothing to do with it, whatsoever.

Yeah, let Grace defend herself. I give everyone a second chance, and maybe I’m making a mistake. I don’t know who Jake Sullivan is and what the significant is, nor do I know that Grace meets up with Jake Sullivan. Did you say that I believe her? I don’t believe anyone at all. I play along until I get enough dots to paint a mosaic, and then I rant about it like I did here.

You nit picking about me not being perfect in the face of all this bullshit, is noteworthy. Where were you when I needed help? Now you come out painting me the suspect for coming out at all? What the fuck are you accusing me of?

Maybe you can ask for clarification on something instead of labeling something as “deranged” or “crazy”. But you already know that, and you’re just attacking me because you don’t like what I had to say.

Kindly leave and deal with it elsewhere.

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Nope, can’t see your twitter history.

Not at all. I was calling to learn from you. We’re aligned on the vast majority of topics, and I learned a great deal. I don’t think I was the only person initiating calls, either.

This is how we are alike.

@Soverin - to clarify, from secondary school on 100% of my education was paid for by the Society of Jesus.

Poppa Manian and I can compare notes sometime. I really liked Jesuit Secondary school at Canisius. I didn’t like Jesuit college at Loyola Chicago.

Interesting.

these threads are weird. Interesting.

Anyhow Jae, you filed a lawsuit citing me – falsely. You have engaged in reputational attacks. Your lawsuit made me think that they naysayers must be right, and I acted on it.

You can take that for what it is worth or not, as usual.

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Here is the plan.
Create an opposition political party that represents the original values of Cosmos.
Make a new blockchain that counters the effects of the ICF/Informal/Stride political party.
Play fire for fire to gather support around this new “liquid staking” hub.
Oppose the status quo until they leave due to the governance stalemate on the main hub.
Failing that, if they do not leave, develop our political party hub as the new Cosmos hub.
Checkmate.

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What about creating a ics chain called the “staking atom gouvernance hub” SAGH

They will be different vault / goal :

  • stake atom to get atom Apr + $SAGH token
  • stake atom is giving SAGH chain your gouvernance power to represent origin of cosmos.
  • stake atom to bootstrap new protocol / chain aligned with certain criteria of a constitution
  • stake atom like a lockdrop with cliff and vesting to invest as community sale / private sale for any new roll app / app chain / new ics chain
  • stake atom will create a new atom address, it will claim your airdrop for you instead of losing it.
  • stake you atom to bootstrap liquidity (lockdrop in $atom) for project gno. Land?
  • more to define.

As you get more stake atom = more gouvernance power

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And what exactly is the memo, Jae?

It takes two to drop the lawsuit. Leaning into “Grace was manipulated” lacks balance and accuracy with respect to how we reached our resolution.

For me, I didn’t merely agree to settle with you.
I chose to forgive. I chose restorative justice rather than retributive justice. I believe you did the same.

I will choose to keep forgiving even though it is clear with your engagement with “Soverin” and the like, I am not the one reacting to noise as signal in a channel. And being manipulated.

I’d like to respectfully remind you that there are terms to our settlement. So long as we both abide by these terms, there isn’t any cause or reason for either one of us to repeat a “mistake.”

“A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.”

Fantastic stuff here.

Although for so many baddies being involved, I expect a much higher market cap for ATOM.

this is the trouble with the ballmer curve :wink: